"Sister Souljahism as an operating principle?"

"The more things change..."

There's lots of ranting going on in the Progressive blogging community these days, since November 4th, about centrism, bipartisanship, and a variety of other matters--from Joe Lieberman to Robert Gates to Hillary Clinton to Rahm Emanuel--which all circle back around to, essentially, the same conclusion (or, more accurately, concern):  Are we Progressives witnessing an alarmingly high level of successive Sister Souljah moments in recent days? And, is President-elect Obama's administration tacking too far to the right and thus alienating the very base that won him the Presidency?

(This is a sincere question to which I do not know the answer.)

Over the past 24 hrs., Glenn Greenwald, over at Salon.com, notes this may be the case in: "The mind of the Democratic leadership."


Monday Nov. 17, 2008 15:00 EST
The mind of the Democratic leadership

"...Congressional Democratic leaders ... consider it a good thing -- not a bad thing -- when they anger their own base.  They're thrilled when they get accused -- accurately -- of acting like Republicans and supporting right-wing measures, particularly on national security and 'terrorism' issues.   They consider it a benefit -- an incentive -- when they are attacked for embracing Republican political policies and violating the principles of their own base.

This is undoubtedly the rationale which, at least in part, led to Obama's own reversal on FISA:  namely, it was considered a good thing that he infuriated his core supporters and was accused of supporting definitively Bush/Cheney terrorism policies because -- in the words of his new Chief of Staff -- "it makes you look bipartisan."  

And here's Greenwald's prescient comments from late yesterday on events, today, as they ended up playing out on The Hill:


Tomorrow, the Senate will vote in secret on whether to deny Joe Lieberman the Chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.  Is the anger that will be generated among liberals if Lieberman continues in that position something that Senate Democrats want to avoid or want to provoke?  One wonders how many similar celebrations Congressional Democrats had all those times when they enabled one radical Bush policy after the next and were excoriated by their own voters.

--SNIP--

Nobody who has watched Congressional Democrats over the last many years could possibly have expected any other outcome.  This is who they are and what they do.  The silver lining is that it will once again remind people, still euphoric over the election results, of this reality.

And as the anger pours forth from people who raise money for Democrats and expended huge amounts of time and effort to elect Barack Obama, the more vindicated Senate Democrats will feel in what they just did.  That's how they look centrist and bipartisan -- by infuriating their supporters, the perceived "Left."  They don't believe in Sister Souljah moments; they believe in Sister Souljahism as an operating principle, a way of life.

Lastly, in addition to the Lieberman story, there's this not-so-little tidbit--a retelling of a piece from Democracy Now, as referenced today, over at the Democratic Underground: 'Melvin Goodman on Obama and his intelligence advisors from Democracy Now."


AMY GOODMAN: John Brennan and Jami Miscik, both former intelligence officials under George Tenet, are leading Barack Obama's review of intelligence agencies and helping make recommendations to the new administration. Brennan has supported warrantless wiretapping and extraordinary rendition, and Miscik was involved with the politicized intelligence alleging weapons of mass destruction in the lead-up to the war on Iraq. We speak with former CIA analyst Melvin Goodman and Michael Ratner of the Center for Constitutional Rights.

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MICHAEL RATNER: Well, it's extremely, extremely disturbing. When you read Jane Mayer's book, the worst and most onerous chapter is the chapter on what the CIA did to people in secret sites, from small coffins to waterboarding. John Brennan was there at the time. To hear him say that this stuff works is really--or that it's very important to do is really remarkable. He's saying that at the same time when we know about the Center's client, Maher Arar, being sent to Syria, tortured, so-called diplomatic assurances somehow able to protect him. Another Guantanamo people--other Guantanamo people sent to Egypt with the worst kind of torture. So, the idea that Brennan, who should probably, along with Tenet, be facing some kind of war crimes trial, is actually heading the transition on this is extremely disturbing.

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MELVIN GOODMAN: Well, then you have to wonder who he's relying on, in terms of advice, to keep Bob Gates at the Pentagon, which I think is another example of continuity and not change. You mean to tell me that there are no Democrats who are qualified to become the Secretary of Defense? Bob Gates has supported all of the policies that Obama said he was going to look at very carefully and seemed to oppose: expansion of NATO, bringing Georgia and Ukraine into NATO, deployment of missiles in Poland, deployment of radars in the Czech Republic, the continued acquisition of a national missile defense, which is the most expensive item in the Pentagon's procurement project, an item that we've spent over $500 billion on in the last forty years. This is--again, this is not change; this is continuity.

Let's see...in the past 24 hours we have: Senator Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Senator Joe Lieberman, new White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel,  and most of the leadership of the post-9/11 Central Intelligence Agency.

Now, I'm a huge fan of Senator Clinton, and I think keeping Gates onboard a little while might not be all that bad of an idea (and, just a couple of weeks ago I definitely wasn't of that opinion). But, when you look at how things have been playing out over the past few days, I just have to ask myself: "Democrats?" "Change?"

"...the more they remain the same."

NOTE: Special thanks to 99 Percent Pure's diary, today, at Daily Kos, "From Democracy Now! - Bush CIA Rendition Team Heading Obama's Intelligence Transition Team."



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Singer covers this better than me... (2.00 / 2)

...right at the top of the MyDD page as I post this...but, the CIA stuff (at the bottom of my diary) is, perhaps, what chills me the most.


by bobswern on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 03:56:21 PM EST

Greenwald may be a little over the top (2.00 / 1)

with his Sister Soljah comment, but I agree, this is disheartening.  The most optimistic thing we can say is that things may change after january, but this is not a promising start.

Hilarious.  On David Schuster's show on MSNBC, earlier today, Pat Buchanan said that Obama should try to appoint at least a few people that would appease "the DailyKos crowd," (his words), and "the base," to give them some sense of reward for all their effort on his behalf.  That was Pat Buchanan.

Right now, it doesn't look like we're getting much change.  It looks like extreme caution and adherence to the beltway Broderesque conventional wisdom.  My fondest hope was that after the election, we might finally begin to phase out the dinosaur DLC faction that so eagerly caved on the 2002 AUMF, Patriot Act, MCA, FISA, Alito, etc.  Add Lieberman's chair to the list, as well.  It is a culture that we are fighting.

I always said I would be content if we end the torture and get out of Iraq, and I'll stick to that.  And I'm pretty sure we'll get that.  But I had bigger hopes than this.


by Dumbo on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 06:33:14 PM EST

Re: Greenwald may be a little over the top (2.00 / 2)

Hey how about Krugman for Treasury secretary?  That's one that would help smooth things over.. that and having Holy Joe campaign for, you know, Democrats.. like Martin and Franken who could really use a hand right now.


by Why Not on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 07:54:28 PM EST
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Buchanan (none / 0)

Of course Buchanan thinks that Obama should "appease the Daily Kos crowd;" it's what he'd do if he were a Democrat.

Do we really want Obama to be a left-wing Buchanan?


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 09:53:01 AM EST
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Obama as a Progressive? (2.00 / 1)

Okay, raise your hands:  how many of your really thought the New Politics was something besides the Old Politics with a new coat of paint and a good marketing campaign?

So far, Obama has done little that I wouldn't have expected him to do, including giving Lieberman cover in the Senate, much as I hate to say it.  Otoh, he's given me cautious optimism with some of his appointments like Emmanuel and now Holder.  Hillary as SecState would startle me but if the other options are Richardson (a "resume" candidate) or Kerry or Holbrooke, then Hillary looks pretty good.

Obama will have his genuine progressive moments.  But he's also going to play the bi-partisan card at times and going to be very, very mainstream much of the time.

At the end of the year, the "netroots" will find a lot to celebrate.  They will also have gnashed their teeth so often that I advise securing good dental care in advance.


by InigoMontoya on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 07:22:31 PM EST

Re: Obama as a Progressive? (none / 0)

Nah, New Politics was just something that some Clinton supporters liked (and still do) to trot out to make themselves feel smart.

I think it appeared in the phrase "so much for the New Politics" more than it did anywhere else by a factor of 10 or more, which kind of tells you everything you need to know about it.

Did you really think Obama was "dangerously naive"?  Of course not.  Stop refighting the primaries.


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 03:05:45 AM EST
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chill out (2.00 / 2)

I am very happy with how things have gone.  This may blow your minds, but moderates like me did not want to exchange one extreme regime for another.  I am a liberal at heart, but I want good common sense government above all.  I voted for Obama and supported him from the day he announced because I believed he was a pragmatic and very intelligent human being.  

The netroots can be angry, but we will never get universal health care or other big initiatives passed if we simply try to ram everything down the conservatives throats.  

Worthless example:  My girlfriend's mother simply loathed Obama through the election.  She claimed he was a Muslim, the anti christ, socialist, etc.  But now she has come around and actually called us crying while apologizing for the things she said about him.  My point is that if Obama comes out and asks her to support universal health care, she would back him because she trusts him now.

In the end its not about left vs. right , its about governing effectively in a country that is more complicated than the simple us vs. them mentality.


by Xris on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 08:09:08 PM EST

Re: chill out (none / 0)

Troll!

snark


by the mollusk on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 10:15:30 AM EST
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Re: "Sister Souljahism?" (none / 0)

The idea that people are focusing on Bill Clinton and looking for dramaa is so pathetic. Good thing we know exactly who fleeced this country blind and put us in a depression, practically destroying the world's economy. Where are the people screaming for vetting those people who let this happen? I'd be willing to forgive Bill Clinton for anything at this point, if I could just shave bare a few hundred of those agents of financial intelligence who sold derivatives of impossible mortgages, let alone the mortgages themselves, and have them do silly dances in public until they dropped from exhaustion.

How fickle and stupid the people distracted by the media can be. So while we grill auto executives who need money to change their ways - while gutting pensions and weakening unions - about a $25 billion dollar loan that anyone with ears has known about for almost a decade, we seem to have forgotten that someone is responsible for losing trillions of dollars in value on Wall Street. We'll check all that out after Bill Clinton? We're busy extracting revenge from Lieberman? We're busy being led by the nose by the media and beaten down Republicans, who I had hoped would at least be interrogated for a week or two after the elections took place. No matter. Since the election only the little people are still drowning in misery not of their own making.


by Jeter on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 02:49:55 AM EST

Re: The New Sister Soljah Operating System? (none / 0)

I think Glenn Greenwald generalized to an absurd degree.

Anyway, absolving Joe Lieberman doesn't even crack the top 100 things that congressional democrats have done to anger the base in the past 8 years.


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 03:08:40 AM EST

Re: The New Sister Soljah Operating System? (none / 0)

Or it does, but it shouldn't.


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 03:09:08 AM EST
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